The ninth generation Honda Accord was
recently launched here in Malaysia and I managed a short drive in the 2013 Accord 2.0 Vti-L variant. This car sits in the category where it is
usually bought by senior managers of companies or by the companies
themselves. It is aimed squarely against other large sized Japanese
and Korean sedans in the RM150,000 or thereabouts price range and
this range of cars is what most Malaysians aspire to have in their
driveway, front porch, garage or apartment car park.
Most would want more, but local taxes
and excise duties mean that this is usually the threshold amount that
most would want to spend on a car. As such, the Honda Accord along
with its competitors like the Toyota Camry and the Nissan Teana, all
large Japanese sedans fight for a place in the hearts of Malaysian
car buyers who want to show that they've made it in life (to a
certain extent).
The Design
The Honda Accord 2.0VTI-L is a typical
large sized Honda. The ninth generation Honda Accord is a slimmer car
than the previous model. It's like the Accord went through a diet and
came up looking svelter. It loses the ungainly overhangs of the
previous car and there is a more cohesive look to the Accord compared
to the previous model.
But whatever you do, do not buy this
car with the optional Modulo bodykit. This adds all that unnecessary
bulk (and more) to the car and makes it ungainly. And if you compare
this car with the current Toyota Camry in terms of looks, this wins
by a million miles. If you compared this car with the Nissan Teana it
wins too (but the Teana is huge, some people like huge. Small people
usually). If you compared it to the Mazda 6 it isn't as fashion
forward as the 6, but it positively will not look outdated within the
next three of four days when it becomes outdated.
Aside from that I also have to state
that this is the first Accord in a zillion years that eschews the
double wishbone setup for a simpler McPherson style strut setup. Does
it make a difference? I'll tell you about it later.
The interior
All Accords come with standard an
8-inch 480 x 320 pixel WQVGAresolution LCD display screen, single
angle reverse camera, Honda's audio system which includes Bluetooth,
USB connector, dual zone automatic climate control and alloy wheels.
The VTI-L has navigation system but does not have the left hand blind
spot camera, LED daytime running lamps, headlamps, and tail lamps;
and an adaptive cruise control system.
Honda must have bench marked certain
continental makes as the quality of the switchgear is good. Materials
used are soft to the touch where it counts and it the double screened
dashboard looks like it came from a car of a higher grade. I like the
overall feel inside. Every switch, button or knob I touch seems to
have some work gone into how it feels whilst operating them.
The driving position is typically Honda
which means it is easy to get comfortable whilst driving one. There
are enough adjustments to suit almost everyone.
Rear passenger space is good and
similar to the outgoing model It was also stated in the design brief
that this new Accord is slightly smaller than the previous one as
people who bought Accords like things a little smaller (which must be
the opposite from every other car brand these days). But from where
I'm sitting, there hasn't been much space lost over the previous
model. I should know as a business partner uses the eight generation
Accord and I have a frequent passenger in it.
Drivetrain
You get a 2.0liter 16 valve SOHC engine
in it that makes about 154Bhp and about 190Nm torque. It runs through
a 5 speed torque convertor gearbox. This specification is pretty
basic and it isn't a Honda 'Earth Dream' engine like the 2.4liter
variant. Malaysian Accords however run the 5 speed automatic from the
previous model unlike in Japan and the United States which run a CVT
box.
I would prefer a newer 6 speed box for
more ratios, but I suppose this is still better than buying a Toyota
Camry 2.0 which still runs a, gasp, 4 speed automatic or a CVT for
that matter.
Driving the darn thing.
It's a Honda, therefore it is actually
decent to drive. It isn't overly exciting to drive but it surely
isn't dull. What strikes you when you first get in and start the car
up (with a starter button) is that the car is quiet. You slot it into
gear and as you bimble off into traffic you'd notice that it is
pretty quiet. Specs say that this car has active noise control which
cancels out unwanted noise via speakers pushing out similar
frequencies. As such, at low speeds the Accord 2.0VTI-L is almost as
quiet as a Camry 2.0 (which, whilst sad to say, is the refinement
benchmark in this category). Tyre roar is minimal compared to the
previous model and a mighty big improvement. The gear changes are
smooth too with nary a jolt unless you're pushing it.
But refinement takes a back seat when
you gun the throttle pedal. The engine above 4,500rpm is coarse and
does not have a mechanically refined sound to it. It sounds like
something industrial and it isn't like Honda VTEC engines of days
gone by. This is because it is a single camshaft design that is tuned
for economy (there is a stupid ECO button for owners to play with
if they want to – Honda says you'll save more petrol if you prod
it...oooooooooh) and isn't tuned to wail like a banshee. This
also means that by 5,500rpm or so the car feels just noisy, but isn't
really going anywhere. It would do the 100km/h sprint in around 11
seconds but it will be darn noisy whilst doing so. This still is a
whole second faster than the quieter at high rpm Toyota Camry. So
I'd just drive this car a tad gentler most of the time by being
smooth on the throttle inputs if I want refinement in this Accord.
And when it comes to ride and handling
I think the Accord rides firmly but not uncomfortably. Body movements
are well controlled and if you flung the Accord into a corner it
would obey you better than other contemporaries like the Teana and
the Camry. The Mazda 6 would outgrip it but it rides like a plank
compared to all of the other cars mentioned including the Accord. So
did I feel the Accord needs its old double wishbones? Not really. The
car steers well with good weighting in the wheel but
like most modern helms a little lacking in outright feel. The
car takes sharp bends predictably even on the short drive I had
around the Penchala Link area. If any of you want an example, a
sweeping right hander would be taken a good 10km/h faster than either
the big Nissan or the big Toyota before understeer sets in.
This car has a good balance between
being sporty when you want it and a nice enough ride for almost every
occasion. It is quite easy to test whether the ride is good as the
surrounding area has got tons of construction and potholes as well as
spilled concrete everywhere. Things does not get jarring for the
inhabitants of the Accord over rough roads.
Conclusion
Even though the drive was pretty short,
a whole lot of stuff shone through (I'm getting good at this)
. It is simple, honest and filled with goodies for the price Honda is
asking. To get a similarly equipped Camry or Mazda 6 you'd pay a good
RM10,000 more. This Accord also adds good looks that are neither too
fashion forward nor shaped like a tank (and you know which uncle
car looks like a tank -hint, hint...its the Toyota). I believe
that pure refinement but coupled with looks like a tank would not be
a good buy. Looks as well as handling over refinement like the Mazda
6 would also not do it after a tired day's work. The Nissan Teana is
actually about to get a model change next year and it has ungainly
overhangs front and rear over a short looking wheelbase. I wouldn't
go for that too.
And so, aside from the unrefined engine
noise at high rpm (which isn't a deal breaker in my opinion), I have to say that if I were looking for a company car in this price range, this is it.
2013 Honda Accord 2.0 VTI-L
Specifications
Base Price: RM149,800
Body: 4-door SEDAN
Mechanical Orientation: Front Wheel Drive
Mechanical Orientation: Front Wheel Drive
Engine: 4 cylinder 2.0-litre SOHC VTEC
normally aspirated
Power: 154 BHP
Torque: 190 NM
Transmission: 5speed automatic
Power: 154 BHP
Torque: 190 NM
Transmission: 5speed automatic
Weight: approx 1530 kg
Wheels: 225/50r17
0-62 mph: approx 11 seconds
Top Speed: about 200 km/h
Top Speed: about 200 km/h
Fuel Consumption: 6.5l/100km
For: Low speed refinement, interior
quality, exterior looks, decent handling
Against: Industrial and therefore uninteresting sounding engine noise too loud at high revs. Needs more sound proofing up front. Avoid the Modulo bodykit.
Against: Industrial and therefore uninteresting sounding engine noise too loud at high revs. Needs more sound proofing up front. Avoid the Modulo bodykit.
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Dear author, honestly, quite a good review. I am considering new car, which happens to be 2.0 litre Camry / Accord/ Teana class. Comfort is my top priority.
What do you think of this Accord 2.0's high speed refinement in comparison to Camry or Teana?
- wind and road noise at higher speed (say 100 - 150km/h), I see that you mentioned about low speed refinement, but nothing about high speed refinement.
- road noise over coarse road surface, road noise
- Ride comfort around town, and Ride comfort on the highway.
Some people did mention Honda's ANC gives them uncomfortable sensations, you experienced any of that?
Hello,
Nope, no problems with the active noise control for me.
If you're looking at the 2.0 category with the three cars mentioned and with comfort taking precedence over the rest this is what I think:
Around town:
Camry for the silence and soft ride, teana is also as quiet but slightly stiffer ride. Accord is harder than that but as quiet if you don't gun it all the time.
Highway bombing:
Below 110kmh all about equal. On the highway the sportier ride of the accord makes it the driver's choice with the teana after that and the camry last. Comfort wise it is the teana with its cvt gearbox unless you put pedal to the floor and things may change. Camry 2.0 isn't a good choice even though it is comfortable as it has a four speed automatic instead of the six speed of the 2.5. This will lead to high revs at cruising and worse fuel economy.
Actually the camry 2.0 is compromised by its looks and its gearbox. I would rather live with the accord which looks better and has a 5 speeder.
The teana whilst quiet, refined could actually be te best choice but I personally do not like the feell of a cvt gearbox unless it has tons of torque which a 2.0n.a does not have. This car could be the best choice for you if comfort in the city and on the highways is what youre looking for.
Oh, personally, I'd take the Accord among these three. It would give me that planted feel on highways compared to the other two as well as driving pleasure. The camry feels floaty over 150kmh and i prefer to drive a car that does not require me to concentrate harder than what i usually have to at higher than usual speeds. The teana is fine, a family member has the previous generation one and its okay for a big boat of a car
Hallo there Rigval,
Thanks for your time and effort to provide quite some useful insights, these type of info is exactly what I am looking for. If you don't mind, I do have further questions....
1) At highway speeds of say 110km/h to 140km/h (that's the speed I normally go), among the three (Teana 2.0, Accord 2.0, Camry 2.0, lets throw Optima 2.0 into the mix for the sake of more comparisons),...whats your opinion in terms of
- NVH, road noise and wind noise, which is the most refined?
I am assuming engine noise should be less of a factor at higher speed as it is masked by louder road noise. (though Camry's shorter 4 speed gearing may be a disadvantage).
- Accord feels most planted at highway speed of say 150km/h,...I am assuming more comfortable as well,...or is it on the firm side too?
2) Is Accord's firmer suspension going to be abit too harsh in poor town road conditions? This is a tough one to answer I know, because ride quality is a very subjective thing, some folks love super soft floaty feeling, some folks love firm and controlled feeling.
3.) Engine performance of the 2.0 (Optima, Camry, Teana, Accord) -
which has the best acceleration 0 to 100km/h, and which has best in-gear accelerations for overtaking. All about the same?
- Though comfort is top priority, I would sometimes still go all-out.
I see that Honda CRV 2.0 which has almost same weight as Accord, same engine, same tire width of 225/17 (probably same gearing?) has quite a poor figure of quoted 12.7 second to 100km/h. Is Accord about the same, or it is slightly better due to front wheel drive transmission?
Am I correct to assume that CRV permanently drives to the rear wheel when 4WD is not selected,...thus compromising its on the wheel power efficiency vs FWD Accord?
Do you feel a noticeable difference between Accord 2.0 vs CRV 2.0 acceleration or you can hardly feel any difference at speeds below 100km/h?
4) Seat comfort and overall comfort for rear passengers - which car provides best comfort for rear passengers? Though Accord has largest space, I believe all of them should serve more than enough rear passenger room.
But seat comfort at rear? Ride comfort for rear passengers? NVH for rear passengers?
Hallo again Rigval..its me again, sorry for the rude sounding nick. I just got mixed it up with my gmail account, where this rude nick can appear as the username.
46lanciau = rossi in the previous post.
In terms of choice of car for this segment, probably we are on quite a very similar thinking. Cannot stand the looks of the Camry, and thinking that Accord is the best all round choice.
Only thing is, I would need to test and see if the ride quality is too firm for me (I am old man type who prefers soft, but not floaty please). Guess you can't have the best of everything.
Another potential drawback of the Accord as pointed by you is loud sounding engine at high revs (and also pointed by Paultan). So, I have to test if I can tolerate it. Even though I am having comfort as top priority, due to the "under-powered" nature of the 2.0 for such heavy car, I am afraid I may occasionally need high revs to get it going around town, or in the highway when overtaking cars. Even though the Accord 2.0 has got 5 speed, I felt its not enough for this heavy and underpowered engine,...the spread of the gears are too wide, 1st gear probably 60km/h, 2nd gear probably 110km/h, 3rd gear probably 170 plus km/h, 4th gear up to 200km/h or more top speed, with 5th gear for cruising.
With such a wide spread of gears and peaky engine, and heavy body, man,...I believe that for my type of driving, the car is going to be occasionally forced to drop gears and occasionally with revs about 4000 rpm. If the Accord has 6 speed, then it would definitely help a lot,...I really think a lot. with closer spread of ratios to help acceleration, and reduce the tendency for high revs.
I am also looking forward to next year's new Teana 2.0, though disappointed when I learnt it has the same engine as current.
Hello,
Boy, you're getting too deep in trying to make a choice. Try taking a deep breath and see with what you heart wants instead of just specs and figures. (and resale value).
I think the Accord is the best because the exterior looks, interior looks, quality of switchgear (close to a continental) and that slightly firm ride (very audi-like in some ways) makes it a nicer car to drive than the camry or the teana. It is also the best for highway driving but not the best for our sometimes pot holed urban roads. But is isn't bad as the car feels pretty solid. The teana and camry are more plush on these urban surfaces. Front and rear.
Both suffer from looking ungainly but offer plush barge-like ride.
But you cannot expect all out power from a 1500kg 150-160hp car. 100bhp/ton means that you get average performance and in real life everything is quite close unless it has a real handicap (like 4 speeds - BUT this is only at speeds above 120kmh IMO which also limits the top speed of the camry to around 180-185kmh).
Do not bother with the Optima as it still has some small niggles comapred to the japs. It looks good but lacks headroom due to the sunroof and handling isn't really that sorted.
Gosh. Your queries are really long. And BTW, the CRV does not accelerate as fast as the accord as AWD suffers from more drivetrain loss than FWD. this is why it is slower than a similar engined accord.
How about Honda Accord vs Hyundai Sonata?
I'd still take the Accord. The Sonata is slightly overstyled in a fussy kinda way. The Accord drives and handles better. The roofline of the Sonata slopes in such a way that taller guys will have to duck a little. It may be quieter but aside from that I don't see anything that would make me choose it over the Accord.
And if I were to buy a full sized Hyundai, I'd take the i40 over this. But I'd take the Accord over both.
Regards
Hi, how do you find accord comparing to mazda 6? Is accord still better choice?
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